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I'm a dude, but I have children. Have you ever seen a breast pump work? They are not the best experience, and breastfeeding is the superior method to feed your kids vs formula. I honestly do not see the gross factor in this, if I were on a bus and a women is breastfeeding and I didn't want to see it - I simply wouldn't look at it, because eyes have this nifty option of looking elsewhere.

 

Gender is a non issue. If one hits you, then they are able to handle one back.

 

You are an ignorant person to have this viewpoint, and you don't understand the situation. How in the world do Illegal Aliens vote for a President? Obama is the worst president? Should I remind you the last one got us into two decade long wars we never won?

Why is Nixon a horrible president? He was the one who brought in the Clean Air and Water act, and many other things. What did Nixon do he was so horrible?

God dang, stop watching Fox news, that crap is horrible for you.

And Canadians? Is this a joke debate? This is why the debate section is ruined, because of things like this. My god.

 

There's no such thing as homophobes; just bigots.

 

Hey guys! I just wanted your opinions on gay rights. Please no hate on this thread!

Personally, I have nothing at all against gay people. "Decide what to be and go be it"

 

The clothes you wear are made of unnatural synthesized fibers. The thing you're using to type on is made of unnatural plastics crafted from petroleum. You think Macbooks and American Eagle polos are found in nature?
Homosexuality is, though. http://library.calstate.edu/sandieg...encedirect_doi_10_1016_j_anbehav_2011_08_0091

 

It wasn't really a rant. I was just typing my heart out.

 

I believe that gay marriages should be equal to straight marriages. You can't help it if you love a person that is the same gender as you.

 

literally as long as its not hillary

 

Trump should not become the presidet.

One of the arugments that I see way too many times is ''he is honest''... And WTF, how stupid are you people who believe that he will be able to do half of the things he says. He will make mexico pay for a huge wall over the whole boarder, why would they accept? He is a bit charismatic, but he does not plan stuff. A president needs the ability to plan. He just says many things, and if it's popular he reapeats it, if not he barely ever mention it again. And would you really want a rude douchebag like Trump to negotiate with other important leaders of the world?

And the other he knows how the echonomy works, and surely he has the ability to fix the US echonomy. The way you run a company and the way you run a country is completely diffrent, so even if he knows how to run a buisness, he might be the worst president the US could possibly get with an unstable echonomy.

 

Created an account just for you guys! On the basis that, a sizable chunk of the "big" debates that happen here? Usually involve a Biblical worldview Vs a non-religious one. Abortion, Gay-rights, Evolution, Atheism. Threads being littered with people stating their view, with very little to back it up. On both sides. Not to mention the amount of misinformation that goes back and forth.

I want to tackle the reasons, the justification for your beliefs (and mine!). WHY you believe what you do. To engage with those that want to share ideas, and have my opinions open to scrutiny, ridicule, you name it! If you can show me flaws in my logic, expose bad arguments on my side, I'd love that. If you get to change my mind for the better, for free? Who's truly the winner there? I'd be stoked!

So, let's get to it! I'd love to know...

1) Why do you cite the Bible as justification for what you believe, if you disagree with parts of it?
If parts of the Bible are immoral or unworthy of following in your eyes, then you don't get your morals from God, do you? Otherwise you'd follow every word. To shun some parts of the Bible, means that you already have a moral system in place. An extra-Biblical source for your values.

2) If Science says X, and the Bible says Y, do you believe the Biblical account over Science? Take 'Evolution' for example. If we have centuries of documented evidence for Evolution? The genetic code and our genetic similarities to other species, the fossil records, observable macro-evolution in Biology, ring-species, etc. If all of what we have observed and discovered about the world we inhabit leads to one answer, and your holy book tells you another? Why would it be acceptable to dismiss Science, in favour of 'faith'?

3) Why is believing something for which you have no good evidence for, a good thing? Isn't that just gullibility? Why is it a good idea to use logic, reason, evidence AMAP in our lives, but when it comes to "The Big Question", we're supposed to suspend all critical thinking to believe in a god?

4) Do you believe in a literal Hell? If so, isn't the idea of an infinite punishment for a finite crime by definition, immoral? Also, if God does something, anything. Is it moral, no matter what it is? There are passages in the Bible where he commits mass genocide (of infants too). How do you reconcile this, or what justification is there for it?

5) Do you believe in the power of prayer? Can it have any effect? We've done multiple studies (one released not too long ago) that showed the ineffectiveness of prayer, and how it was no better than chance.
Not to mention... if your god wants something to happen, it happens, right? Visa versa? So why pray? Arn't you just telling him how to do his job, how he's made a mistake and how you want something that he didn't want.

6) Do you believe that your god is perfectly just? That everything happening under his gaze is absolutely fair and righteous? Do you also believe that he is merciful? If you believe this, it cannot be the case. Mercy opposes that which is just. A perfectly just and merciful being by definition cannot exist. How do you get around this?

7) Why can't God just show himself to us? It was good enough for "Doubting Thomas" in the Bible, and your god showed himself to Thomas. Why can't he do the same for us?

8) Do you have conversations with god? Do you audibly hear him, or speak to him? If so, how? And how could we tell the difference between someone that HAS seen him, and someone that is having delusions and hallucinating of holy images?

9) If you're a Christian, don't you believe in God due to sheer coincidence? By that, I mean... if you were born in the Middle East? You'd most likely be a Muslim. Telling us how we should all strive to live our lives by the Q'uran, and how Allah is the one true god. If it was in India, you'd be a Hindu. You're not a Christian because of any truth-value, it's just geography and tradition. Because most parents pass their religious beliefs down to their children. Agree/Disagree?

10) The big one. Aside from the talking snakes, living in whales, Arcs that can support thousands of animals for 40 days, etc.

Your god (according to the Biblical account) sacrificed himself, to himself, to create a loophole for a rule that he made in the first place. He had himself tortured, just to pass on a message to us? Plus, we're all created sick (with sin), and demanded on the pain of eternal torture to be well again. Your religious symbol is also an ancient torture device.

Can you guys rationalise these for me?

So long as you address at LEAST 1 of the points, I don't mind. But please don't come into the thread and post snidey jabs, or preach Bible verses at me. I'd like a discussion and engage with you. Any posts that have some substantive conversation are more than welcome. Thanks for reading! Oh, and if you have any questions as to what I believe, ask away!

 

Trying not to offend anyone in 2016:

 

please take a history class

 

I hate global warming. Not true!!
I also think vaccines cause autism and I only feed my dog with a vegan lifestyle. Screw the Haters I know whats best for him!


(BY THE WAY THIS IS A JOKE, BLOO :3 ))

 

+Amazing economy
+State of the art military
+Intelligent leadership
+Population isn't dependent on alcohol

/sarcasm

 

The United Kingdom?

New Zealand?

Taiwan?

Russia?

France?

Cambodia?

Chile?

The Cook Islands?

Thailand?

Oh sorry, you were talking about America...n Samoa