Can terrorism be justified?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#South-East_Asia
http://world.time.com/2013/06/20/extremist-buddhist-monks-fight-oppression-with-violence/
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/2/myanmars-buddhist-terrorism-problem.html

 

I can't tell if this is intended to rebut what I said, or back it up...

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 5, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 5, 2016 ---

Looking at these articles, it seems like they're doing it more out of hate for Muslims than because of their own religion.

 

Do you recall the Atheist that shot Muslims for stealing his car-parking space? Does that say anything about Atheism? Does that mean Atheism is responsible?

We have to show causality from the religion (and the beliefs promoted therein) to the violence. Even if Muslims were to commit violent acts in the name of Islam, that doesn't necessarily mean that Islam was the cause.

If a stamp collector goes round and mercilessly slaughters non-stamp collectors for the sin of not collecting stamps? Stampcollectionism is not responsible for their actions. We need to show a casual link between belief and action. Between religious ideas, and violence.

This is exactly why I said earlier that not all crimes committed by Muslims are as a result of their religious beliefs. But when:

- Their violence is supported in the religious holy books (Q'uran+Hadith).
- Religious authorities support the violence.
- Their actions are consistent with the beliefs of fundamentalists within that group.

Then there's almost certainly something worth looking into there.

Regarding links that you cited?

1) Many in the first link were Nationalistic Buddhists. Unclear as to which was the causal factor. Not only was there no support for the violence in scripture, violence was committed because of a lack of condemnation. Rather than swathe of support. There's a big difference between "Our religious books promote X" and "Our religious books fail to condemn X".

2) Again, Buddhist Nationalists.

3) This article is merely citing the article from 2. Failing to draw a causal link between Buddhism and the violence. (fwiw, AlJaz is not credible.)

Again, if Atheist Nationalists committed violence against Christians? Is Atheism responsible? Clearly not, because it isn't even an ideology. Much like 'Theism' in and of itself, isn't an ideology. You have to show links between belief to action.

Do you have any links for Jainist violence? The fact that you've cited 3 regarding Buddhism and none about Jainism should say a whole lot here. The more violent the religion is (as well as the more adherents), the easily it should be to show examples of violence caused by it. It's a sliding scale. Islam? Incredibly easy. Christianity, less so. Then come Sikhism and Hinduism. All the way down to Buddhism and Jainism where you'll be hard-pressed to even find any causal links between their religion and the violence. Let alone many examples of violence committed by them, period.

We don't need to do any mental gymnastics to rationalize the motives of Islamic terrorists. Everything points in the direction that their actions are religiously motivated. You don't need to invent geopolitical motives for why intelligent and qualified British Muslims join the most barbaric religious death cult in modernity. Being maligned as a minority, and having grievances towards Western foreign policy don't turn peaceful liberal Muslims into death-worshiping genocidal maniacs. The belief in eternal paradise, appeasing the greatest being to ever exist (Allah) is enough to do that. How do you explain the bliss that terrorists routinely feel before blowing themselves up? They *know* they're going to paradise. Sending dirty kafir to Hell, appeasing their god. Why wouldn't you be happy with that?

Again, I ask you for a 3rd time now. Why are so many British Muslims (and Western Muslims generally) so homophobic? Outnumbering British Muslims that support homosexuality by almost 3 to 1? Why do almost 1 in 4 want to replace British law with Sharia? Why do over 1 in 5 refuse to condemn people that stone adulterers to death? Why do almost 1 in 10 want to implement an Islamic caliphate in Britain? Why do more British Muslims join ISIS, than the British Armed Forces?