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Reset?

Discussion in 'Denied' started by The_Unkown675, Jun 20, 2016.

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Reset?

  1. Yes.

    14 vote(s)
    34.1%
  2. Yes with copy and paste.

    4 vote(s)
    9.8%
  3. No

    23 vote(s)
    56.1%
  1. TechnoTyson

    TechnoTyson Popular Meeper

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    No and Yes I really don't care what meep do, I am leaning towards yes and would like the fun of a new start
     
  2. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Resetting is the dumbest option it is. You're trashing everyone's time investment.

    Copying towns is not even a possibility.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 20, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 20, 2016 ---
    What do you say to your customers who have spent a lot of real money dollars for meebles?

    How do you convince them to do it again when they know, and you've proven, that you'll wipe it eventually.
     
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  3. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    Resetting the server would cause people who invested time or money to quit, because they never know when it'll be reset again. By resetting, you've effectively made everyone's time and money worthless, and will quickly realize that you'll lose most of the dedicated community members who are left.

    Basically, yes, I agree with Deinen.
     
  4. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    I don't think the people that would come back and stay would be greater than the people who would leave.
    I think people would chargeback and I think while some players will be happy, more will be extremely angry.

    I don't think it'd work.
     
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  5. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Not to mention, those that do chargeback, would be justified in doing so if a reset happened.
     
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  6. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    To be honest, I'd agree. Donation is a donation and all but something to this degree is crazy.
     
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  7. SpongeyStar

    SpongeyStar Professor in Wumbology

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    So many people will quit if the server reset. I mean, I'd stay because I want to see how it all goes down and I got nothing to lose apart from a town and a few 100k meebles....pffft.

    It would be good to 'clean' up the server and start fresh but at least give donators their rank back and something special for what they had donated to the server. As for players, also give them something.

    So I'll just be 50/50 here.
     
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  8. epick8

    epick8 The Meme Lord

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    get out
     
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  9. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    They did not donate to the server - They bought a product the server was selling.

    Don't call them donors, call them customers.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 20, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 20, 2016 ---
    I mean all your really doing everytime a reset is brought up is making anyone who actively sells ranks stop selling them for the time being. Because when it's talked about, and acknowledged, then it means any rank sales today might not be worth anything next week.
     
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  10. twomoo1119

    twomoo1119 Celebrity Meeper

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    All the mayors would quit, though new player may join and make towns, like 30% of the active server would be gone, meep can't afford to lose that many.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 20, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 20, 2016 ---
    Eccept minecraft it's self is on a decline. Towns are built on one kind of player, the player that joins the server, then leaves forever. Only about 1-0.5% of players stay and another 80-90% are not fully active. A fresh new start would be catastrophic for the server.

    Also, if you have a town and you would willingly give it up, what kind of mayor are you. I have devoted countless hours to meep to build my town to almost 300 residents. More people than is possible to know well (average is about 250) mentally, yet, somehow you can love it as a whole. I know how I would feel if all that was wiped clear.
     
  11. SpongeyStar

    SpongeyStar Professor in Wumbology

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    The thing is, I have no residents. I just built 3 houses that sure I will miss but I really won't cry my eyes out if I do lose it.
     
  12. CluelessKlutz

    CluelessKlutz Badmin

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    Exactly, you don't have as much invested in a Town. Meanwhile, those such as @DevilSpawn112 have put more than two years into one Beta town.
     
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  13. twomoo1119

    twomoo1119 Celebrity Meeper

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    If you care so much about the Eco but not your properties, why not give your town and money away to random players who are semi active, it would make them more active and boost the Eco.
     
  14. SpongeyStar

    SpongeyStar Professor in Wumbology

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    I wasn't stating that I don't want my town anymore but I can just keep it for now, I meant that I am trying to build more houses and start to add residents. I still use my town.

    // case closed
     
  15. epick8

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    This is something that people don't consider at all and people should be taking note of this. The fact is if this idea was ever publicly approved/considered by admins(will never happen), donations would stop because rank sellers would literally be throwing money down the drain. No one would donate because its a waste of money, all gets reset in some period of time.

    It just puts the server in a terrible spot with its money spending populace that its bound to become financially unstable rather than do any actual good for the server. Without a way to give confidence to remaining customers, who wouldn't ever really have a reason to "donate" again out of fear of a wipe, theres no point to consider this as an option. Resets mean people lose. People don't like losing. People don't like losing even more when it comes to their hard earned money.

    Last thing, almost none of these comments are related to the actual suggestion, which is combining Towns A and Towns B into a single towny world, not a towny reset. Way to derail the guys suggestion.

    To comment on the actual suggestion, thats a very lengthy process and the last time something of this scale was tried on a server, it shut down for about a day and lagged the server for weeks (towny biome reset). It was originally separated into two worlds to decrease lag on a server that had more active towny players. Now that the server has less people, making it into one world could mean less stress for the server. I honestly say no because it doesn't seem worth it in the end. Lotta work and logistics for no tangible positive outcome.
     
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  16. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    In addition; two townies were made to alleviate lag with the players on them. Combining them into 1 towny is self-admittance that this server will never reach those amounts of players again - Otherwise you'll just have to create a second one again.
     
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  17. CanadianH0b0

    CanadianH0b0 Popular Meeper

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    -1 for me lads

    I know having two towns spreads the players apart from each towny world but The scale of how many towns and all the other stuff that I don't quite understand how it fully works would take a very long time and in the end the idea of copying and pasting could completely fail which could cause loss of data and waste a lot of peoples time. A lot of people have worked hard for their towns and some people are not active mayors who own huge city's and would loose everything they worked for if they ever came back. Now the idea of just wiping beta or alpha and saying players in the towns can sell all their materials well that could be a very long process especially if they want the materials they used in their town meaning tearing down every block placed. Its a good suggestion but i would have to disagree. I don't know how donating came into this all the sudden just cause you reset doesn't mean donaters are loosing their ranks...... if it did mean that then goodbye to a huge majority of Meepcraft because a lot of the donaters would leave and not want to come back. At the time we are at in Meepcraft I can not see a positive in doing this at this time. However I am not a mayor and I am recently a returnee to Meepcraft so I can't fully see the viewpoints of more experienced players but please make sure you listen to everyone's view on this subject and don't just read the agree responses cause someone might just have a reasonable response to why this is not a great idea. I hope what ever the decision is everyone is happy in the end
     
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  18. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Explaining the purchasing aspect:

    People sell ranks to other players for meebles. The idea of a eco reset was also presented. This would mean those who sold ranks would lose their meebles, reducing incentive to do such a thing in the future.
     
  19. CanadianH0b0

    CanadianH0b0 Popular Meeper

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    I also agree with that statement and would not like to see an eco reset either
     
  20. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    I understand the topic is two townies, but the debate seems to rest on eco resets. Although I'm not a fan of an eco reset there are ways to do it without wiping everyone's balances entirely. For example if everyone was given time to sell all their belongings and afterwards was wiped 80% of their balance then they would still hold the same purchasing power as before, but a single meeble would be worth a lot more. There would be no change aside from the loss of items. The best way to implement a reset is to develop a new and better towny world (1.10?), let people sell their items, and wipe balances by a percentage; this way everyone is psyched to finally have an updated towny without any loss to purchasing power.
     
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