Abortion

it is quite literally a form of birth control as it controls a birth that you may or may not have
lol
edit: In the technical sense its not but I dont know why its s big deal LOL

we're not really mad at you because of your opinion itself. Look at metr0. Metr0 agrees that abortion isn't the best of choices, but he isn't using crappy logic that doesn't make sense to justify himself and he's not being rude about it, so. Maybe if you worded things like an adult you'd be treated like one

Not really the only reasons and again you are looking at it as if it is simple. I dunno if you have any younger siblings or were close to a friend while their mother was preggo with a younger kid, but that mess is so hard for so long, you don't think 9 months is a long time until you're sick and in pain for a lot of it and feel guilty about the outcome of it

You'd rather healthy women die over some cells though so I don't know why I'm even bothering anymore

 

Abortion was not created as a form of brith control and the big deal is you are killing a potential life.

How am I using crappy logic? There really isn't much logic to it, abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control and is pretty much murder. I think something is pronounced alive when its hear starts beating. I dont care how you treat me, if you think my opinions are childish then thats on you lol I dont take much offense to people I dont personally know.

When did I every say I would rather have healthy women die over some "cells". I believe I have stated that I am fine with abortion as long as its from a rape victim or if the mother is going to die.

 

Um?

You'd rather a woman die in pain instead of being able to get a safe operation and you are encouraging the idea that a mother who wants to abort her kid should kill herself.

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I meant the big deal over the technicality of a word's definition

 

I do not want mothers to die in pain. If the mother is going to die the abort the child. I keep saying this lol

Also when I said the mother should kill herself I meant mothers that do stupid things to have an abortion. Such as stick a vacuum cleaner up there.... She's an idiot and probably shouldn't be on Earth anymore.

 

" maybe the mother can do the same to herself as she's about to do to her child. . . if you know what I mean."

So you want her to stick herself in a vacuum cleaner? or kill herself along with the kid? I'm confused.

 

Wow! How my words have been changed! No! Not at all what im saying.

You know that thing that you keep referring too? "unsafe abortions"? Many people use vacuum cleaners in order to do that unsafe abortion. Im saying women who will put their only health/life in jeopardy in order to get an abortion, should probably not be here.

 

Thats why Im asking instead of saying "you said" dont get all pissy like that
So, they probably should not be here. Where should they go? Are you referring to the kid or the woman? By not be here, I see either you sre implying to go away. This would mean to live somewhere else which doesnt make much sense, or to live nowhere and physically not be(so suicide)?

Please explain.

 

Well apparently i'm breaking rules here, i'm being "warned" lol so let me keep it "clean". If a mother is stupid enough to harm herself in such a way in order to have an abortion (unsafe abortion) then the mother probably deserves the outcome of what she is doing to herself. MEANING, I have no sympathy for a soon to be mother who unsafely has an abortion and harms herself. By stopping abortions in general (except rape victims and or if the mother is going to die due to the birth) then you are saying that the mother will have an unsafe abortion. At that point if you are that desperate that you are willing to shove a vacuum cleaner in you in order to abort the child (that is 1 method of doing an unsafe abortion) that the harm you do to yourself is well deserved. I do not want the mother to kill herself or commit suicide. I hate suicide, I want to stop all suicides (except for prisoners) (oh wait is that too harsh of me to say) anyway, I don't think anyone should feel so badly about living that they take their own life. So no, I do not think women who abort their child should automatically commit suicide. However, a mother that partakes in an unsafe abortion deserves what she has coming for her.

 

Alright, so you don't want the mother to be hurt.
Why would you take away the safe option, then, which hurts no one, as what is being removed cannot think or feel and has no concept of living or life?

Out of the 350ishK babies born a day, there are 3ishK abortions a day. That's not exactly a high number especially when you consider how many people live in the US, or even in a single state, or even a single city in a state. Its an EXTREMELY small number.
(Also ~ 150K people die a day. Now tell me overpopulation isnt a thing again. Sigh.)

 

one murder a year is 1 too many. I do not care what the percentage is, I do not care how little the number is. one is too many.
I do not want women to get hurt (really badly, as every pregnancy is going to be painful but I mean life threatening) I do not want them to get hurt but if the mother does something really stupid (as an unsafe abortion) then thats on her 100%.

Over population is false.

 

But if the thing's heart isnt even really a full heart, if it is even yet beating, are we really killing it?
If it is not even a full being, why does it matter to you?
Are you vegetarian? If not there's animals murdered every day and animal cruelty is way more of a problem than abortion, pick your battles
1 "murder" of a collection of cells the size of an apple seed is too much, but if you're a prisoner oh please, go ahead, kill yourself?
Who the hell even are you

So it's more stupid to get an unsafe abortion than some (HYPOTHETICAL!!!) scenarios for a child:

-- Kid gets adopted and left in the system (Possibly adopted by *gasp* a gay man)
-- Mother is a piece of trash and tosses baby in the dumpster, or keeps and uses kiddo as leverage to get baby daddy money and other financial suppport so she can go get her eyebrows did every week
-- Mom dies and kid dies anyways soooooo now what?

 

If the heart is beating then its a child.
Yes, you guys complain about population control or over population so wouldn't prisoners be the better option to go first?

Okay were at over 7 billion people on Earth right now, so according to your 2 billion limit, 5 billion of us should be dead by now? That truth is, is that that is false. The Earth can hold over 10 billion people before they draw concern for food. Which is just meat, not even vegetables. We are not over populated.

No one is forcing anyone to have an unsafe abortion? If abortions are illegal (except rape victims and the possibility that the mother may die) then no one is forcing her to abort the child unsafely. That is her choice.

 

You are autist- Oh wait we can't say that.

You're acoustic.

 

Why do women's decision matter to you only if they were raped or if they're going to die?

 

Im not sure where I fall here!!

In my opinion, the only time you should get in abortion is if you've been raped, or sexually abused in any form. While it is not "considered to be living" it is still something that will spring into life, so my opinion varies, there are many opportunities for kids that you cant support, adoption being a common form so that the child is supported, however it is very very painful to go through labor and know that you won't be keeping the child so then it is understandable to a point there.

So really. im neutral!! If you are in a bad situation, then you shouldnt have a child (but you also shouldnt have sex but people are dumb so mistakes happen )

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ya you get birth control at the store ya doofus !!

 

Literally over population is a myth or scare tactic, seriously y'all are so gullible.

You are taking the life away from a child. You are not allowing him to breathe, live, etc. You got the chance to be a person, that child did not.

No crap, thats literally what im saying. Muunkee said abortion is a form of birth control, i was saying it wasn't. Before you stick your nose in something, try reading the entire thing. Then come at me.