US Military Action Under Trump and the World

Recently, US President Donald Trump has been very hostile to conflicting countries and groups. This includes the air strike on Syria, training with the South Korean Military and sending aircraft carriers near North Korea, and the dropping of the MOAB on an ISIS base in Afghanistan.

These three recent events basically represent the main ongoing international conflicts.

Syria: the Syrian Civil War has dragged on for a while. Russia and Iran support the government forces led by Assad, while the US supports anti-government democratic forces. And there is also an ISIS presence in Iran.

As long as Russia and the US support different sides, the war is far from ending. Russia and Iran criticized Trump's air strike and backs the claim that Assad did not use chemical weapons. Do we want another proxy war?

North Korea: tomorrow is a big celebration day in North Korea, because it celebrates the 105th birthday of Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Un's grandfather. They are most likely going to conduct a nuclear experiment to show that they are not backing down against the US.

China's foreign minister is suggesting that the two nations talk instead if using armed forces to solve the problem. North Korea has been launching ballistic missiles to the Sea of Japan for years.

ISIS and Terrorist Groups: though not particularly supported by any country, radical terrorist groups such as the Taliban and ISIS has not weakened. They are recruiting young people to join their perspective groups and massacring civilians that resist.

Most countries need foreign support to fight those groups but most of the time it leads to civilians being killed.

Terrorists have rooted in remote areas and it is not easy to fight them.

Considering that, how do you think the US and its allies should react to the situation?

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Trump gets hell for doing something about it and would have gotten hell for doing nothing about it. He did the right thing and will continue to do the right things.
Assad & Kim = Waste of Oxygen.
It makes me angry when they show up on my Television screen.
America needs to take action as well as other countries do.

 

You'll never make a thread as long as Deinen because you don't have bullsh!t reasoning on the first post

 

So you are saying that we should waste our money by having a proxy war with Russia?

 

mindless trump supporter spotted. Nothing he could and would do in office is bad right?

 

I don't care what we have to do, when you have Kim and Assad being a bunch of idiots, you do something about it.

That's not true either, he has 4 years to screw up. He just hasn't failed yet and is keeping his promises.

 

Before I say what I do, I'll say this. I supported none of the candidates, they were all bad. Now, let's get into this. We're you a Hilary supporter? Because she flat out wanted to start a war with Russia by launching attacks on Russian forces in the Middle East. If not, justell me who you support and I'll tell you how they'd screw up the world. Don't get me wrong, trump is pretty bad, but atleast so far Russia and North Korea have only threatened war.

 

and Hillary campaigned for Barry Goldwater, a segragationist who thought black people were subhuman.

 

1. Despite not trusting anything with a connection of Russia immediately, nor trusting the context of the strike on Syria, in an isolated world we needed to take the action we did in response to using chemical weapons. It was an appropriate action.

2. Military action of NK is dependent on support and consent from China. NK is not a target worth engaging if we're facing in opposition to China as well.

3. The MOAB was appropriate, considering we're at war. The military isn't letting people in the blast radius, so I expect a higher than usual civilian casualty to come from it, however.

 

What do you mean? He has lied numerous times (see the Trump thread), banned legal residents, and now sold our internet privacy.

Interfering with either of those regimes mean that US is going to kill innocent civilians again.

Russia and Iran will also not back off, and we have never won a proxy war with Russia (except probably the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan)

I agree that Hillary would've been worse.

Although I agree with you, Afghanistan is very politically unstable and the last US intervention did not solve the problem. Using the MOAB is one way, but it will be very costly to fight and defeat those terrorist organizations.

 

Trump hasn't really lied tho. Trust me I've been apart of that thread. Wow he said the crime has been the worst in a long time (such a huge lie right?)

Sold our internet privacy? We've never had internet privacy LOL

Yes, when you blow up, shoot at, and destroy certain parts of a country, people tend to die. They are also dying because of what Assad is doing? So what's the difference if he intentionally kills them or is America kills a few and saves thousands? Also, North Korea and Syria doesn't care if America dies so why should we care if they do?

Russia isn't gonna do crap, China is also agreeing with us on North Korea.... probably Syria too.

 

Banned legal residents that are potential terrorists, and he didn't sell your internet privacy, he got rid of oppressive regulations that strangled innovation and potential job creation.

"either of those regimes" are already killing innocent civilians.

 

No, but he allowed the entire senate to recieve bribes, he most likely also recieved a bribe, and made it so every word you type into google can be used as advertisement, and that your ISPs, get ps to all your information. Now they'll make sure to spam you with minecraft ads, or, remember that one time you searched something naughty in incognito? They have that. And they'll advertise it to you, but not just you, your entire home

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Cough cough he and congress recieved bribes so that the people you pay for internet access can sell your information cough cough

 

George Washington warned us not get involved in Foreign Affairs...

 

You can't compare George Washington to any modern day President. Things are much different now. We as well as other countries have deadly weapons, we have chemical weapons, we have missels, we have tanks, we have a large amount of immigration, we have a large amount of trade.... and much much much more. If George Washington was here today I guarantee his view would be much different. Back when George Washington was around we didn't have people like Hitler, we didn't have people like Assad or Kim. Things are different.

 

He also said no political parties . . . see where that went?

 

We actually had King George III and other tyrants on a side note, however the US was just not powerful enough to deal with other foreign powers.

So you have no proof that Russia "isn't gonna do crap"
I'm not too sure that China will tolerate some country invading their neighbor either because they didn't in the Korean War

Killing civilians violates the war rules that the US stands by, and only can create similar results to the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars.

Also please read over the thread so I don't have to answer nonsense comments.

 

Okay this was how many years ago!? As I said before, things have changed.

When did I say I didn't have proof??
So to start:
1.) No Russians died in the missels sent to Syria despite them being near the Russians.
2.) Putin's spokes person even said that it wouldn't cause a war between Russia and the U.S
3.) Tillerson is still going to his meeting over there, despite the conflict right now. Hopefully it'll resolve some issues.

War law? please show me this law.
Also, if you allow another country to treat their people as Syria was doing and do nothing about it... you are a sad leader. Did you not see the people? the babies? Syrians are praising Trump because he did what was best for them people. So to say Trump and the U.S went against a "war law" and killed some people. He didn't just killed random innocent civilians. He killed people who needed to be.

Seriously? "nonsense" comments?

 

The difference is that the current issue with ISIS is directly related, unfortunately, to mistakes America made during the invasion of Iraq. As much as I opposed going into Iraq in the beginning, we've sort of made our bed, time to sleep in it kind of deal.