Net Neutrality

Obviously this has been a hot topic as of late, figured I might as well start the debate thread for it. If you don't clearly know what net neutrality is, I'd highly suggest doing some research of your own before listening to all the ads for and against it.

 

This is an issue where I'm not sure as to how anyone can be against net neutrality aside from ISPs. I'd love to see any arguments against net neutrality.

 

Net neutrality is just a bandaid for the government aided monopolies that shouldn’t exist in the first place. If people got serious about letting a free market develop in the isp industry we wouldn’t need net neutrality. State and Local governments already kill competition from potential startups, not to mention the billions of dollars in subsidies given to the big isp companies.

 

The issue with this is the government already has very strict restrictions on who can become an isp, not to mention that many people don't have options when it comes to choosing an isp in their area. To use it as an example, Alaska is the only state with Blockbusters because the ISP companies do not want to invest in order to build the proper wires required for high speed internet, so Netflix and other streaming services aren't practical.

 

That is what I said. Net neutrality is a government solution to a government problem. If we actually had an unfettered free market competition would do the job that net neutrality is doing right now.

 

Klutz, you've blown my mind again

 

Net neutrality as it is now (dead) is not fully true, as of now Internet Service Providers have to mention to the public whenever they choose to block or restrict access to a certain video, website, and etcetera.

 

Still has to pass through congress

 

incorrect

 

Congress can, if motivated, override the fcc decision.

 

yes that is correct but however...

• With a Republican Congress that is hell-bent on destroying anything even associated with "Obama", that won't happen
• FCC doesn't need congressional approval on their decisions

 

Internet service providers were not created by the government. The lack of competition in the internet service provider industry was the problem created by the government I was referring too.
Free markets are free, and also the most efficient and ethical way to allocate resources.

 

Not exactly. They can pass legislation that overrides it but the actual rule stands unless Congress specifically chooses to act on it. Aka: they can override it, but doesnt mean the decesion has to go through congress to be approved.


Net neutrality is very important for consumers and internet based site startups. Im not going to provide the lengthy commentary for it, but I will say if you enjoy netflix, they can slow your connection down or make you pay more for it. Being against net neutrality is one of the dumbest sides a person can take on a matter cuz theres so little benefit from repealing it

 

I didn’t say giving this specific piece of freedom back to the market would help small internet service providers. Where are you getting the idea I said internet service providers are more important than “every other business discipline on he internet.

Free markets are based on voluntary mutually beneficial transactions between individuals usually involving the trade of private property, which is an exstension of self ownership. Any effort to coercively interfere with a transaction like this is infringing on the participants self ownership, I.E. unethical. As for establishing it as most efficient, in a general sense I guess I would point you to a supply and demand curve.

 

Net Neutrality came into effect in 2015. The internet will likely be very similar to what it was before then. Internet service providers won't make you pay to use websites, as it will likely persuade some of the consumers to switch to a provider not slowing down/forcing you to pay for the programs they want to use.


I honestly don't see the point of getting rid of net neutrality, but I don't see it becoming as big of a problem most people are making it out to be.

 

except not every provider that would offer this plan is in every area? This was a noted phenomena that certain businesses would stay out of other territories. Your belief in absolute free market capitalism is unfounded. Maybe consider the possibilty that wealthy businessmen would have incentive to band together and collaborate in an effort to get more profit

 

I fully support Net Neutrality, but I'm tired of the echo chamber. Most of my friends support it, but don't even know what it is. We need to educated people on it instead of telling them that "they'll have no more internet."