President Trump

Impotent & a fascist! I’m on a roll!

Afrikaners were there first.... but okay.


@MeepLord27 technically all taxes are a form of socialism, that’s why conservatives want to lower taxes. I’m not against taxes nor am I against welfare programs but I think we need to limit it & lower taxes, extremely.

 

What about the black people you idiot

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Uh oh blue Marlin is a socialist because he thinks the government should exist?

 

What about them?

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Uh oh blue Marlin is a socialist because he thinks the government should exist?[/QUOTE]

No, I’m advocating for less welfare programs, way less taxes & limited government. Unlike the left whom wishes for higher taxes, more welfare (free, free, free) and more government.

 

They were there before the afrikaners moron

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"All taxes are technically socialist"
Despite your diagnoses of socialism being wrong, if we go with this anyone who thinks taxes should exist is a socialist. A government can't exist without taxes or interest gained from a surplus (originally appropriated with taxes regardless) so if you support any government you are a socialist.

 

Whats yout thoughts on his almost first 2 years of his first term? This is his list of current achievements Donald J. Trump's Accomplishment's List | MAGA PILL

 

Not terrible but not exceptional either. Pretty average imo

 

If you read any of my post history on this thread you'd see I'm pretty centrist. I've voted for more Republicans than Democrats in my voting history. I'm from a red-state and most people I know are right-wing and I respect them just fine.

However, the fact remains we have always had right-wing fascists in our nation and our philosophy towards the radical fringe, left or right, was to ignore them because surely everyone knows they are insane and dangerous. This has not worked and these fringes have gained more power and we're in a time where we are actively seeing neo-Nazi rallies in the open.

This is unacceptable.

The act of using lies in order to attack a group who has opposing views as you as the enemy or wanting to destroy America is a fascist action. Attacking a free press which says ideas you oppose is fascist. Rejecting citizens at the border based on ethnicity is fascist. Attacking other branches of government, such as the judicial, because they have an opposing idea/ruling than you is fascist.

I haven't called Blue a rascist or homophobic or trans-phobic or sexist. I called him a fascist because he is actively pushing fascist ideas. He literally said democrats do not love America as America and used lies in order to justify his fascist ideology.

 

There's a thread for this

 

It's as if you haven't been listening to me at all. I am not against taxes, I am against stealing the amounts of money the government is stealing from it's tax payers. I am for a flat tax, whether it be 10% or what not, I think 15% flat tax for all would be on the higher end but I would be fine with it. Everyone's would be different, Your 10-15% tax may be different than mine, but its fair. Some of my family members are paying around 30% of their paycheck in taxes. Thats theft.

I will refuse to continue to debate if we can't stop the name calling. Despite what I may have said within this very long thread(I honestly can't remember half of it), I have been in many debates and name calling gets people no where. I feel as if I have worked on my debate skills and I want to have a cordial debate, so please, lets stop the name calling.

anyway, Afrikaners were the first people to settle in Africa, within them were people from different ethnic backgrounds but the majority of them were Dutch.

Living in a red state doesnt make you a centrist. Throughout this entire thread you have not said one thing that would make me believe you have ever voted for a Republican (not calling you a liar but your ideologies and beliefs are swayed to the left but a long shot).

Correct

Its dangerous to ignore these people because if you don't talk to them and try to understand their views they will only become more of a right or left wing extremist which is very dangerous. EVERY voice matters.

meh

ummmm no, but prove it.

What's unacceptable is you not actually listening to people and their views and if you strongly feel they are wrong trying to correct them or help them see it differently, instead you call them fascist!

I agree, I see people on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, The View, The New York Times, The Washington Post, shall I continue? doing this all the time. FAKE NEWS MEDIA with a huge liberal bias filled with lies about the President & his administration. The media lying to the American people is VERY DANGEROUS!

a free press that lies.

Because they are crossing the border illegally, not because of their ethnicity.

He isnt attacking the entire branch he is attacking people within that branch, like people who wire tapped him throughout the campaign, Those who paid for a fake dossier and created a fake Russia investigation and have only found a "Campaign finance violation" (LOL), those who have FBI agents text messaging each other about how theyre going to "Stop Trump from becoming President, they wont allow it" CORRUPTION!

Because I am none of these things, maybe thats why you havent called me one?

FALSE! I am speaking truth.

You still haven't proved me wrong on this thought. However, you did misunderstand what I am saying and you still refuse to listen to me. I never said Democrats didn't love America, I said they don't love America as America. Meaning, they want to change the country, meaning they want to allow mass amounts of backwards cultures to come into our country. Liberals have caused people to praise criminals and hate law enforcement and the military. There is a HUGE problem when people are praising criminals but punish and hate law abiding citizens and people doing their jobs. They want to destroy ICE because they're catching criminals crossing the border and these people "Have a right to be here". Give me a break. The left has gone crazy.

What lies?

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Oh and by the way, we have left-wing fascists too.

 

better than expected, but we've had goods and bads so far so idk i guess it's not like he's terrible

 

At what % does taxing become evil socialism theft

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Are you actually retarded? The black people (the ones who spent decades under an illigitimate imperial government) settled there first, not the afrikaners.

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Give me one example in history where a radical fringe was out-debated into backing down.

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Not a thing, read a book

 

I love how you just keep saying "read a book" for everything you disagree with that I say.

I have answered this question, for someone who claims to have read a lot of books your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking only when your reading what I say.

Taxes becomes theft when the government steals your money in order to give it to someone else.
Example; It costs 119 billion dollars a year for illegal immigrants to be in our country (25 billion for a wall).
It costs over 500 million dollars a year to fund planned parenthood (where they slaughter innocent babies).
It costs somewhere around 30 billion dollars a year to fund sanctuary cities (the places where criminal immigrants can run to and not be deported)
We are spending hundreds of billions of dollars in welfare programs that need to strongly be cut.

so to answer your question again, it becomes theft when you steal money from someone to benefit others. I will continue to call taxes theft until they lower the income tax to atleast 15% (for all, a flat tax) and stop funding organizations that shouldnt be funded.

-Abolish sanctuary cities (saves us money)
-Stop giving welfare and free stuff to illegals (saves us money)
- as far as planned parenthood goes, they should be receiving ZERO dollars from tax payers as many tax payers do not support what PP does. Instead, PP should be run like the NRA, it receives donations and thats it.

This probably won't matter to you but I asked three people yesterday, three of my family members, two of witch don't even live in the same town as me, I called em up and just asked "Who were the first people in Africa?".... all three (over the age of 40, two of which are 70 [my grandparents]) and they all said the Englishmen /Dutch. My grandpa actually got mad because he said when he was in school and they taught true history thats what you learned, he said he tries reading history books today and its all wrong. Just like the Mexicans weren't the first people in Mexico.

Not my point. My point is EVERY voice matters, no matter how far left or right someone may be, they have a voice, this is America, they deserve to be heard.

 

Umm, I actually live in South Africa, and I just want to pop in to say that the English/Dutch (or Afrikaners, whatevs) were definitely not the first people in South Africa. Obviously. Seeing as we have ancient settlements and stuff here dating back wayyyy before the colonisation surge of Europe.

Also, what kind of rhetoric is “I called up like THREE of my family members, and they said this”? Lol. If Hitler called up 3 of his generals and asked “Are Jews bad?” They would’ve told him yes.

 

Good.

 

The point in me calling my family members were I asked 3 of them, two of which are in their 70’s & 1 in her 40’s who without me saying anything, just asking the question, all at different times, said the same thing that the Dutch were the FIRST people to settle in Africa. They were the first people to make something of the country.

The Dutch in South Africa, 1652-1795 1802-1806 - Colonial Voyage

 

You literally link a page talking about the Dutch colonization.

Here, let me link you what Google has to say about colonization;

the action or process of settling among and establishing control over the indigenous people of an area

You see, by the very nature of the word, you would only colonize an already populated land. Meaning: there already was someone in Africa before the Dutch people.

While we are at it, Africa is not a country no matter how many family members tell you about it independently.

Let me give you an example with America since that's where you apparently shine.

Hope this won't be a big shocker, but the British were NOT the first people in America either! I know right?!

Just some good old colonists.

 

I never said the British were the first people in America. Everything you said is irrelevant, the point is, the Dutch were the first people to make something in Africa. Apparently English people are very good at creating successful societies.

 

There is a difference between people making something out of a country than being the first people there. Everything @Dockson said is relevant. It is no different than the British colonizing America. Don't be so stuck up that you can't see the truth when it is shoved right in front of your face. Stop being naive. I have had a fun time watching this thread, though.

 

I’m not denying this. Again, it’s as if no one is listening to what I say. We could say the same thing for Mexico. Mexicans weren’t the first people there. It’s sort of irrelevant tho (and that’s why I’m saying his post was irrelevant) because it’s not a matter of who walked the land first, it’s who did something with hence land.

 

Guys he is too stupid, don't bother.