Best Posts in Thread: Terrarium/SB arena rant.

Truth be told, as the one who created the concept of the rule of toxicity and author of the literal rule this server uses to this day

None of this has been toxic.

 

So I was reading some things and saw a "skyblock pvp arena" was added. I was like "ZOWIE SOUNDS DOPE SIGN ME UP" then I realized, as soon as I saw it, that it was not worth a zowie. The arena is a mess, anyone with a bow can climb into the trees and be invincible, anyone trying to melee will be constantly being messed with by slime blocks. I don't want to bash the arch's... it LOOKS great. But it looks basically unplayable.

Klutch was talking about how he is putting those passionate about X in charge of X, and those passionate about Y in charge of Y. Problem is, not many people on meep are "passionate" about PvP, which makes sense, I mean, what kind of loser PvPs on an economy server? (Thinking of at least 5 people) So the arenas are built by the arch's who are passionate about BUILDING and that's why they got "arch" is so they can BUILD. But telling an Architecht to make a good PvP arena won't work. It might look good, but It most likely won't play out well. Look at Terrarium. I don't know who built it, but it's a work of art, showing off all aspects and biomes of the game with a neat looking central spike mountain thing. Terrarium is trash for pvp though. With all the various height changes and small rivers, it's impossible to have a nice fun 1v1, it all ends up as a game of "who brought more gaps and arrows"

My point with all this is this: Klutch knows eco and how it works, so he runs it, and the eco works brilliantly.
Arch's make pvp arenas, something they clearly don't know about or care about, and you get a nice looking arena with no good gameplay aspects.

The best arenas have wide-open spaces for bowfights, but lots of flat space for melee. The best arenas, such as CC's Desert SG map, have wide-open spaces for chases, but some areas that force players into tight spaces at times. My solution to meep's trash pvp elements is either kill off all elements of it, or put someone who cares in charge of PVP. Someone who knows what works and what doesn't. Is there someone like that on meep? Maybe. But it's far better to put someone over it who likes it than just ignore it and feed mediocre arenas to the players every few months.

(also as a bonus pvp attracts players soooooo)