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Abortion

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Deinen, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    Um...?
     
  2. Erebus45

    Erebus45 Celebrity Meeper

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    Yes because it can survive out of the womb and has an actual brain. It may need the help of some older person but it can survive outside of the womb.
     
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  3. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    Okay so let me get this straight, if a woman chooses to get an abortion, it's equivalent to suicide? Because that's what I'm hearing. I don't get the link between

    >I want to get an abortion
    >Doctors mess up and harm the woman
    >Mother has the choice to kill herself if she pleases
     
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  4. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    No, I'm saying if the mom chooses to kill herself its her choice. She used to her brain to make that decision. If a mother decides to abort (kill her baby) its her choice to take away the life of the child, not the childs. I'm saying that if she chooses to take her life its her fault, why does she have the right to take away her childs life? Its the childs fault she got pregnant?
     
  5. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Fair point, but there is still a huge difference in the two. Could you feed a fetus like you could a baby? Could the fetus digust food for nutrition at this point?
     
  6. Blue_Marlin

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    I don't want to bring politics into this so lets not turn what I am about to say into an entire political debate.

    Hillary Clinton believes in same day or day before birth, abortions.


    Do you support same day or day before birth, abortions?
     
  7. cnkropp

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    I don't support same day or day before abortions unless the mother will die or be permanently injured from giving birth. I also don't see how Hilary's opinion on the matter is relevant because she changes beliefs.
     
  8. Blue_Marlin

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    I was using her as a reference. I respect yalls opinion abortion and can see some points I just cant fathom destroying a soon to be child for any other reason then the mother dying or rape.
     
  9. qazini

    qazini Neighborhood Panini

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    Late-term abortions are usually only done if the mother is in danger or the child somehow got problems. I don't mean mental/physical illnesses you can deal with, I mean like, the child will just suffer-and-die-soon-after-he-is-born problems. I don't believe there is any other case for very late-term abortions.

    And, to answer your question, no I don't think late-term abortion should be allowed, other than in the cases I described above.
     
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  10. metr0n0me

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    But your definition of independence is somewhat arbitrary.

    Can a very premature baby digest food for nutrition? Could you feed it like a normal baby? What about a 1-week old baby with intestinal problems?

    Of course, my personal beliefs are my beliefs, and I view a human life as both sacred and starting after conception (regardless of the viability of the fetus), though feel free to disagree--these are just my personal opinions.
     
  11. EllieEllie

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    Forcing someone to carry a baby they don't want it more detrimental than them getting a safe abortion.

    I can guarantee you that 90% of people that make the difficult decision to abort a foetus are actually thinking about the foetus. They will have crushing guilt, the knowledge that the baby will never get to grow up and probably give themselves horrible self-deprecating thoughts or feelings. It is not a light decision. You are making it sound as if the woman gets up, sees the sunshine and fancies getting that abortion today. But at the end of the day, if that is the best decision for the woman to live a healthier and happy life, how does that affect you one iota?

    If you didn't mean it in a way that she should kill herself and the foetus then my apologies, but that is exactly what you wrote.

    I fixed your other sentence for you.

    It is progressive thinkers that will change the world and if you believe that a 7billion strong species that's ruining our planet isn't true then you are part of what's stopping us from moving forwards and fixing it.
     
  12. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    Hey I'm really sorry (it's 2:18 AM here, go easy on me), but I can't make sense of this sentence for the life of me. Do you think you could reword it?
     
  13. Blue_Marlin

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    Alright so I'm a male and your a female so we're going to see differently on this (for the most part) you think that by not allowing women to get an abortion it's taking away their right. The woman's right to choose. As a conservative, when you get pregnant (not by rape) you are taking a child's life away. You are taking his/her right to live, so you don't have to suffer. No one said parenting is easy, as said in the video I posted. You don't have a right to an easy life, you do have the right to a life though. She can suffer for 9 months so the child can live who knows, maybe to 100.
     
  14. Courtneyyy

    Courtneyyy Admin Princess Staff Member Helper Media Elder

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    What I think she means is that ultimately forcing someone to carry a child to term and give birth to that child will do more harm than having an abortion to begin with. It's absolute hell on a woman's body and mental health to do something she doesn't want to. If in her mind she is unwanting and is going to end up hating this child and resenting all of her choices it's a bad situation and can lead to depression and sometimes worse.
     
  15. metr0n0me

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    No? Being a woman does not necessarily equate to pro-choice, just as being a man doesn't equate to being pro-life.

    I don't understand I thought getting pregnant is bringing a life into the world? Conservatives do NOT believe that getting pregnant = taking life away.


    Your posts come off as really insensitive in their tone for some reason; you should probably work on fixing that.
     
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  16. Blue_Marlin

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    Would you say that most mothers when they carry the child would change their mind after the child is born? Joey Feek never wanted to be a mother because she thought she wouldn't be a good enough mom. She became a mother and regretted waiting so long to do so.

    @metr0n0me yes, when you get pregnant you are bringing a life into this world. If you continued reading what I said you would realize it was obviously a spelling error. I'm saying when you get pregnant you are blessed with being able to bring a life to the Earth. When you get pregnant and abort (kill) the child (excluding rape cases) you are destroying the child's chance at a life. One you are living right now.
     
  17. Courtneyyy

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    That's a very unlikely situation but it can happen but even then you are never stuck, like you've stated previously that adoption is always there if for some reason you feel indifferent I would suggest getting the help you needed instead of pawning off your child to the system. Also, in my opinion there is a BIG difference in not wanting to be a mother for reasons you think you'll be a bad one and not wanting to be a mother because you simply dispise the thought of having a child to deal with.
     
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  18. Blue_Marlin

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    I just don't want to see potential lives being taken away because of a mother like @Muunkee was describing. No offense Muunkee I'm not trying to point you out but it's pathetic that any mother would want to abort a child because they (can't get a date, don't want to get fat, have stretch marks, have labor pains, want to give up somethings) instead a mother should abort if she's going to die or was raped. Abortion is not a form of birth control and if you don't want that 0.5% of getting pregnant then again DONT HAVE SEX.
     
  19. Courtneyyy

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    It is though it is a form which is why it's around. No offense but you're ticking me off you have no right to say that someone can't have an abortion or anything for that matter because of how they feel or what they fear in life. If you've never done it you cannot say "don't have sex" it doesn't work like that. As human beings we are designed to want another human being you can't just say don't do it that's ridiculous. There are plenty of way to prevent it but accidents happen and there's nothing we can do to stop it, oh wait yes there is.
     
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  20. Blue_Marlin

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    No, abortion is not around as a form of birth control. I'm not trying to get into a heated argument with you but as far as abortion being a form of birth control, you are dead wrong on that one. As far as telling someone how to feel, I can't change your mind on that one. Protecting children who can't protect themselves (born yet or not. Able to live on their own or not) it's still a soon to be child and has the right to live. I have 2 exceptions (rape and death of the mother). This is my opinion. You can't get mad at me because of my opinion. Am I not entitled to that?
     

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