Men hitting women.

Disregarding my opinions I'm not saying his belief that men shouldn't women is sexist I'm saying what he first said, about all women being weak and men who can't take being hit by a woman should not be near them and wear skirts, is sexist. Which it is.

 

When?

 

If you're saying that I'm saying that, "It's sexist for Klutch to refuse to hit a woman," you're taking things incorrectly. In fact, I specifically said earlier in the thread that it's perfectly fine and not sexist at all for Klutch to personally not want to hit a woman; however, it is sexist to say that a man should not be able to physically defend himself just because Klutch wouldn't do it.

In many cases, abuse victims are unable to call the police. If someone's significant other manages to start beating them up, it's unlikely that they're going to be able to go pick up the phone and call the police; instead, it's likely that the only way for one to defend themselves is to fight back.

Furthermore, fighting back doesn't mean assaulting the person that assaulted you. If someone attacks you, you're justified doing what it takes to defend yourself (which includes physically fighting the person off), but that doesn't mean that after you get the person to stop you should go and assault them back.

 

Wow someones stretching. Lol.
Pretty defensive. Also ironic you push these "Morals" while quoting "People you look up to" with Stalin and Hussein.

 

As soon as people started taking things out of context to create an issue

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Also ironic, because those quotes, out of context, sound like inspirational quotes of wisdom, when they're really quotes used to justify the genocide of their own people

 

That's not stretching at all... if you can't take a hit from a certain person then that person is weak...

I'm not taking something out of context I'm quoting what is important.

 

hey wtf man i'm Scottish and take offence to that...

 

putting on your mums new l0ok skirt doesn't count as a kilt

 

Those are kilts. What real men wear

 

"According to the National Strength and Conditioning Association, women generally produce about two-thirds the amount of total strength and applied force that men produce. "
Muscular Strength in Women Compared to Men
That means mean have 150% the strength of women. That's pretty significant.

There's a difference between hurt and harm. A woman can hurt a man, for sure, but, in general, she'd be hard-pressed to harm him if he were intent on not being harmed. He doesn't necessarily have to strike back, although if he did, it would probably be justified. His strike, however, contains 50% more power than the woman's. He could harm her.

It doesn't happen a huge proportion of time though.

There are a huge amount of murders in the U.S., but they don't happen a lot.

rac·ist
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noun

1. 1.
   a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
   synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More
   
   

adjective

1. 1.
   having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
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It's only racist if you're doing it because you believe one race is better than another.

Omg.

This current debate also involves two different actions: A woman hitting a man, and a man striking back.

A) That's not even an accepted fact yet, which means that it isn't blatantly obvious, as the strength difference between men and women is.
B) Assuming the studies that show this are correct, we're talking of an average difference of 3 IQ points, which is minuscule compared to the differences between average people, and becomes irrelevant when you factor in the idea that some people are more adept at strategy games than others, and a majority of chess champions in the world have been white...
C) You'd be far better off saying that people like me can't play against people with lower IQ's.

By 3 IQ points
Race differences in intelligence: how research changed my mind to overcome the "all races are equal" dogma. | Human Stupidity: Irrationality, Self Deception
which is basically nothing.

If you wanted to equate it properly, the avg white IQ would have to be 66 (retarded) while the average Asian IQ would have to be 100 (normal).
OR the average white could be 100, and the average Asian could be 150 (genius).

Instead of, as this website proposes, 109 for whites and 112 for asians.

 

Wow... if anybody threatens me i don't care who it is Male, female, Black or white. I will hit them all the same... who cares. It doesn't matter Who they are, if someones threatens me physically they will get whats comin.

 

Perhaps I should've clarified what I meant by "significant." Sure, relatively speaking, there might be a 'significant' difference on average; however, in order for it to be reasonably said that men shouldn't fight back, there would need to be a difference so significant that a woman is basically physically incapable of hurting a man. Furthermore, again, this is just the average; there are many cases where women are stronger than men.

The definition of "harm" is: "physical or mental damage or injury :something that causes someone or something to be hurt, broken, made less valuable or successful, etc."

If you're physically hurting someone, you're harming them..

I'm not sure how common it is for the woman to be stronger, but I doubt that it's as uncommon as you seem to think. Regardless, my point is that considering that it is very true that there are many cases where the woman is stronger, it should clearly be said that the man should be able to fight back. If you disagree with this, would you also claim that a murder victim shouldn't fight against their murderer because murders don't happen a lot?

If you're saying that one race deserves the right to harm another race (and that the latter race should not fight back), you're clearly saying that the former race is better.

The current debate involves a woman hitting a man and a man hitting back, which are the same action (more or less). Shooting someone with a BB gun and a regular gun are a lot more separated, because the latter will potentially kill someone. If you want to compare your gun analogy to the argument, imagine a regular BB gun and another BB gun that does 50% more damage on average, but occasionally does less damage than the original BB gun.

If we specifically compare people from Hong Kong and people from the United States, there is an average of a 10 IQ point difference, which is more significant than you might think.
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country#

Someone's sounding a bit braggadocious.

 

Not sure if it matters here, But I figured Id let you know.
If you hit a woman for whatever reason and you're arrested for domestic violence, You cannot purchase a firearm. You're the same as a convicted felon. May or may not mean anything to you but I figured I would shed light on why I personally take it seriously and just dont do it. The first thing they tell you in the academy is this:
Do you have a girlfriend, fiance, or wife that has ever threatened domestic violence?
Then leave her. 1 time they report it, you lose your job. Just like that.

 

Always better legally to not throw a punch back. It shows a lot about character to the court

 

Well, it's not illegal to defend yourself by fighting back. I agree that in some cases, things get skewed and someone gets in trouble for just fighting back, which might make fighting back an unwise decision (depending on the scenario), but that doesn't make it wrong. Illegal does not equal immoral.

 

Very true

 

If I go to a house and youre both owners and both have marks on you from a fight, I cant prove who hit who first so we arrest the male. Thats the way it goes.

 

Yes, that's what I was saying with bringing up how sometimes someone gets in trouble for fighting back, because you can't always know who was the actual attacker. I agreed that depending on the situation, the potential legal issues could definitely make it unwise to fight back; however, this does not make it immoral.

 

Which some people would cry sexist at, but most of those people don't have experience in domestic violence.