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Minimum Wages

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Daniel Thompson, Apr 10, 2017.

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Do you think minimum wage would help your economy and its people?

  1. Yes, this would seriously help.

    43.8%
  2. This may help, but may not.

    12.5%
  3. No, increasing it will damage the economy and the people.

    37.5%
  4. I'm not really sure about it.

    6.3%
  1. Blue_Marlin

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    I get every "good" relationship includes a great sex life, every buddy wants sex I get it. However, what we are saying is if you absolutely cannot afford a child, don't want to be a parent and blah blah blah and don't want that 0.05% chance of getting pregnant, don't have sex. Idk how else to say it.


    You can't just say "i don't want my child to be related to a rapist" I mean, how do you think a rapists parents feel?


    I honestly don't see what the issue is. Many people in America (including the legal immigrants who came over here actually looking for a better life) call them illegal aliens. In the end, they don't belong here. An alien is foreign, just like they portray "outer space" aliens to be.


    I don't think you would be a good educator.

    Again, sir, this is not about making your life easy. Let me add, I've never been to Australia but I have never waited in line at a bank (especially a drive through one) for 1 hour and 30 minutes (unless I'm talking to like a mortgage loan person and or accountant) most of the time the line goes fairly quickly. or have your employer set you up for direct deposit?


    Well there is one good thing Obama did.... end the "wet foot dry foot" law. (good job Obama, you did one good thing).


    This is why I said, do your research before you criticize other countries. Especially the great country of America.


    18 or graduated from high school. Yes sir.


    Then become a maid, idk. Oh wait nvm an illegal immigrant will do this job for half of what you would do it as.


    lol I hate to admit that anything you say is actually smart or funny but I actually laughed here. It reminded me of Finding Nemo when Dory finds "Squishy".


    Have you visited America yet? because until you do, ill expect you to know nothing about my country (if were going to use your logic) because apparently you have to have something in order to know something. Ill use my example again, I've never built a car but I know how to drive one!

    Then why do you keep saying internet is a need!!!!!??????


    Can I call them peasants?


    What was my excuse? I don't remember making one.


    Well here in America we continue to give government assistance to pot heads! isn't that just lovely, right? (sigh)


    Again, is this one of those "I know nothing about America but ill stick my 2 cents in anyway" type deals?
    A remittance is the money people earn here and send back to their families.

    So, example (ill use Mexico)
    *Mexican hops the border*
    *Mexican gets a job* (probably under the table or using a fake ssn)
    *Mexican sends half of pay check to his mom in Mexico*
    =
    remittance (the money sent to s/he family)


    Some people dont know when I'm being sarcastic. . .

    Or the immigrant just works for minimum to nothing. . .?


    Illegal Alien is literally the term. You also don't deserve a nice cute little title if you have illegally migrated to another country. sorry not sorry.
     
  2. cnkropp

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    Is that a bad thing though? If an immigrant is willing to earn next to nothing working a labor intensive job, they deserve that job.
    I know it's the literal term, but all aliens aren't bad.
     
  3. Blue_Marlin

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    That is very bad. The average American isn't going to clean houses/hotel rooms for pennies. Therefore taking away the jobs of Americans and that includes the immigrants that came here legally.


    When did anyone say all Aliens were bad?
     
  4. cnkropp

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    If immigrants are willing to accept next to nothing for working then they deserve the work. We shouldn't be shaming people that are willing to accept anything in order to make a better live for themselves.
     
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  5. Deljikho

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    This is like you with most of the real world. "I don't know anything about wages, living on my own, finding a job, or having a child but i am going to stick my 2 cents in anyway." Please tell me you understand your own hypocrisy.

    Lol. Welcome to the real world, where you're usually required to have a degree and 2 years experience to get a decent job. The experience usually overrides the degree just fyi.
     
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  6. Blue_Marlin

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    No, the immigrant should not have the plus side of getting a job, especially an illegal one.


    False.


    Okay normally its 2 years experience to idk be the head of the department? I never said you wouldn't need experience to lead the damn place.


    and vice versa.... hello
     
  7. cnkropp

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    People come to the US to find better jobs and pursue the American dream. They deserve a job if they are willing to be paid less for it.
     
  8. Blue_Marlin

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    I am glad that they want to make a better life for themselves. However, they should not be making the pay wages for certain jobs drop, therefore making it harder for Americans to get a job.
     
  9. Deljikho

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    This just flat out proves you don't even know what you're talking about. An entry level position for most college majors are 2 years experience with a 4 year degree. I graduated in accounting, there was not 1 single entry level job that doesn't require those two things. How can you pretend you even know what you're talking about when you've literally never done anything or lived through any of the stuff you put your 2 cents into.
    Nope. A degree doesn't override experience. That just doesn't happen. You clearly have no idea.
    What is false? Have you ever searched for a job? Have you owned a home? Have you lived off of minimum wage? Have you raised a child? Please which of those is false?
     
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  10. Daniel Thompson

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    He is very hopeless right now, agreed Deljikho.


    You've lost it.

    Hi, welcome to the Minimum Wage debate, may you take a book about it?

    How do you type such unusual answers and responses?

    That is incorrect it is True, and you have failed to answer the question (Politician right here).

    Then who is going to do that kind of job? In Australia we are respectful of them because without them we are literally f***ed.

    See Marlin, not making this stuff up.

    I don't think he does.

    Exactly, they deserve to have it.

    You. Or was it your forehead?

    The Average American isn't going to clean, then migrants should do it if they aren't going to.


    Because you do it so frequently that we can't tell if you're being honest or making a joke.

    Okay, I get it, I'll ask your forehead next time.

    I will then say you're someone from the 16th century.

    I have clearly stated it as well as many others, you just seem to skim pass it.

    I have, and I think you guys just need to get out of Baby boomers and Gen X area and move into the Gen Y and Z area instead.

    I can still make jokes in serious debates sometimes and I actually don't know how.

    When you go off the cards you really just go off it.

    I'm just going to take out "great" and replace it with "Violent developed"

    It's ideal that you set one up, because it can then put it start in the bank on pay day.

    Every teacher I usually have in school will rant at least once.

    "Woke up this morning, I suddenly realised, we're all in this together"

    Even more ashamed really.

    I thought he meant to employ the American people, not immigrants.

    That's it, it makes them sound like they aren't human, just an object or another weird life force.

    Okay, that's fair.
     
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    Accounting! wow, now lets talk about idk a maid? teacher? How do you expect to get into anywhere ever if you have never had experience? So no, you don't have to have experience in that direct field. Because if every job required experience in that direct field then literally no one would have a job.


    Yep, Del should be president because he is just a genius!


    Searched for a job - yes I sure have - applied for one too
    im 18 but my parents have owned plenty of homes.
    can't say I've ever lived off of minimum wage but i do know people who do.
    i took part in raising my little cousins, sure have. I had them all day sometimes overnight.


    hopeless because I disagree with you? In that case I feel blessed because I wouldn't want to agree with you. Kinda why were debating. Unless I somehow don't know how a debate works.


    lost what?


    Says the guy who literally went ham on America and I quote "America created ISIS and is the reason we don't have world peace".

    I use my keyboard?


    Explain how its true then!


    Literally anyone would do this job if it paid well.... ya know, immigrants lower the wages for maids and lawn cutters.


    never said you were?


    Please quote me on when I said "All aliens are bad".


    YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AMERICA! They would clean if they got paid decent and didn't have immigrants taking cheaper pay for it.


    Joke: your life
    Honesty: your life is a joke


    Ask it!


    . . .


    A need does not make your life easier, it literally is your life.


    I haven't heard that in a while....


    Joke*


    Im just gonna erase your opinion...


    Everyone rants...


    Im not in this with you, I do not want to ever encounter you ever in my life.


    yeah they are like blue and green with 1 large eye and pointy ears... lol what? no they are humans just foreign humans.... aliens...
     
  12. Deljikho

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    Ah yes, the guy that knows people on minimum wage, searched for a job once, had his cousins stay overnight, and eats ramen noodles when he's still hungry after his parents make dinner. A true hard working American patriot making sacrifices.
     
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  13. Blue_Marlin

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    "When they go low, we go high" ill ignore that post of yours.
     
  14. Deljikho

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    I just want you to see your own hypocrisy. Telling an Australian not to give his opinion on America because he's never lived here is exactly like you giving your opinion on topics you've never had to experience. If hes not allowed to give his two cents then you should refrain as well. You haven't lived outside of your very limited parents bubble, and by your own argument you shouldn't speak on most of these threads since you don't have the experience of living it.
     
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    I'd also like to add that there is still over 200 countries in the world, and you telling me not to speak breaches the human right of "Free Expression". I would happily accept your opinion, if you would actually accept others, but you don't. Instead you go on and on about how star lighting awesome your country is that you think it is always you first? Well let me tell you a story about South Korea. In the 1950's After the Korean war, it was known as the most undeveloped Asian country, it only made a total of 265 US dollars in the first year after. But thanks to aid and support from other countries it is now one of the most developed nations in Asia. If you keep making yourself go your nation first, you might want to rethink that, because if its always "We" and not "Us" it really limits how the world works. Also we don't have pennies or 2 penny coins anymore, its 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 (<- Coins Notes->) $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100 (Just the money in case you are wondering.

    Oh hello forehead thanks for making him say that.

    Agreed, he deserves to be someone who can get stuff done.

    That is still not the same as everyone else who has talked about their experience on minimum wage.

    For the following reason of you don't pay attention to the people around you and what they say.

    Your sense of thought.

    I have clearly mentioned IN DETAIL why that is and has in fact been proven that is (a major factor) into ISIS being created.

    ...While talking to Trump?

    Because you haven't actually searched it, I can tell.

    That is why MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD RISE! You quite clearly are one stubborn tick.

    You are being bias against them, making them ALL sound like they are bad.

    You clearly like listening to Fox news, instantly.

    Well I would love to encounter you, because you seem like someone who needs to be taught a lesson.

    Really? Thought it was just you.

    And you're going to moan about it.

    Meanwhile your dignity has flowed away into space.

    I just said that I had. You clearly don't read comments.
     
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    I'm saying that if you want to be 100% safe have no sex until you want a kid. If you want to have sex but don't want a kid, take precautions to make sure you don't. Those precautions minimize the risk of having a kid, but if you still get pregnant, its your responsibility.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 16, 2017, Original Post Date: May 16, 2017 ---
    Because the morality of killing a child doesn't change just because someone did one of the most evil things you can to do the child's mother. Its fine that you would rather not live, but who are you to make that choice for everyone else?
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    Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 16, 2017 ---
    But I won't, because conceding linguistic ground to someone I ideologically oppose is not something i'm a fan of.

    ALIENS ALIENS ALIENS! ! !
    :p
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    I don't either. That has nothing to do with my argument.
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    You do not need internet to survive.
    I know it would be a huge piss off if you didn't have it. But I think its hilarious that you defines "need" and then literally wrote something you don't need.

    If the companies don't have workers in america, they will move themselves to mexico, either way we won't know if we never try.
    Americans before illegal aliens.

    --- Double Post Merged, May 16, 2017 ---
    How about you respond to any of the arguments he put forward? You do understand that responding with "funny" quips doesn't actually invalidate what he's saying.


    I understand australians struggle with basic things like reading and writing, but if you try really, really hard I'm sure you will be able to read one of the many arguments posted on previous pages.
     
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    Why are we blaming people for accepting less pay and not the companies that are taking advantage of them?
     
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    Sarcasm has no place in a debate.
     
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    America has put other countries before us, its time America puts America first!


    @BlackJack is it okay for everyone else to use sarcasm? Just not me?


    If Del became president (in which the electoral college would never allow) but if he did, I would probably move to idk, Canada? or just go to Alaska and live off the land (yes, I know Alaska is a state but hardly anyone lives there sooooo)


    Look, you don't have to be poor to understand that minimum wage is a sad living but a livable wage.


    If I did not pay attention to what y'all said, how would I know what to respond to each and everyones post?


    . . .


    American DID NOT create ISIS!


    I use my brain...


    lol what


    Or just don't allow the illegal aliens to work?


    How so? They ALL broke the law...


    Yes, fox news posted pictures of these crazy green, one eyed monsters jumping the border.


    Beating my a** is not going to make me lose my brain and or common sense.


    Totally,


    What part? because if you seen any real part of America you would know the truth. You said our education system sucks... which it doesn't (except that common core and standardized testing). You said the roadways sucked (which they still allow us to drive on, pretty safely). On top of the fact that you said America created ISIS and has a Muslim ban! Which is false!


    lol


    Although I can see what you are saying and to an extent I agree. However, we shouldn't be employing illegal aliens.


    Thanks for only quoting me on this, as many people are being rude and or using sarcasm.
     
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    Excuse me. Alaska has a population of over 700,000 people, which is more than the population of your capital, Washington DC.
    So if you move to a state "hardly anyone lives in" you are worth "hardly anyone"/700000 wich is barely hardly anyone :)
     
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