President Trump

Deport me to where? I was born in America LOL

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He can’t comprehend what I’m saying. He still doesn’t get it, instead of discussing my opinion and proving me wrong he decided to say that I, an American citizen, should have my citizenship taken away and be deported.... deported..... a person born in America should be deported out of America..... yes.... makes sense.....

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Comservatives can’t go anywhere without being attacked. Any liberal could walk onto a conservative college campus without s body guard, conservatives can’t even go to their mail box with a MAGA hat on. It’s hard being a conservative in this world, don’t even try and call us right wingers “fascist”. Give me a damn break.

 

The idea that if someone doesn't believe the same as you makes them love their country less is inherently a fascist sentiment.

Ok fascist

To reiterate, merely supporting Trump or bring a Republican isn't being a fascist. Vilifying an entire group by disingenuous statements is fascist.

That is why I am calling you a fascist, fascist.

 

Not at all what I’m saying. To deny the fact that Democrats want to fundamentally change the country is preposterous. You still haven’t convinced me other wise. I do believe I have stated that I do believe Democrats love America, I just dont think they love America as America, y’all want to turn it into a socialist country with open borders.

I’m having fun with this, can’t stop laughing actually. I really want to know, where would you deport me to?

 

Ok, please list in specifics how Democrats want to fundamentally alter the entire nation.

Were you dropped on the head? Do you understand that democrats are not socialist and European governments are also not socialist? We're all under a fundamentally capitalistic economy? Democratic socialism isn't a socialist economy model?

Are you capable of reading and learn or are you limited to spouting the nonsense you see in Infowars?

Specifically list how all democrats want to change this entire nation, fascist.

 

Yes, call me a fascist, great argument!

There is no such thing as “Democratic socialism” it’s just socialism. We are not all a “capitalistic type economy”..... when the government takes 60% of your money (Democrats want to raise taxes because 15-35% of your money isn’t enough) and put it into welfare systems & government programs.... that’s socialism, something Democrats support.

Open borders.... allowing mass amounts of backwards cultures coming into the country.... bringing in their cultures..... that’ll directly change our culture. Democrats preach making whites the minority. Again, proving they’re the true party of racism, always have been and probably always will be, quite sad!

Banning free speech, mainly for conservatives. When a Democrat hears something they disagree with, they call names like “racist” “facist” “sexist” etc.... Candace Owens & Charlie Kirk were verbally and partially physically attacked for eating breakfast at a coffee shop, it’s tough being a conservative in this world. Twitter and Facebook censorship. YouTube banning videos of conservatives, google moving links to the bottom of the page, banning words you can say online, on TV, etc not allowing conservatives to speak on college campus’ that receive government funding.

Taking away your right to bare arms. Not much more to add here.

Democrats won’t stop until they’re in total control. You have congressman Luis saying his loyalty is with the “immigrant community” & we owe immigrants.... forget Americans tho!

But that’s okay, call me a fascist @Deinen, simply because I have an opposing opinion. Again, good argument.

 

I don't know about you but I don't want the government taking the right to shave my arms away

 

Democratic socialism is literally a form of government and its literally not socialism. This is as much of a fact as grass is green.

Almost no democrats are proposing open borders, you assertion is an outright lie.

With exception of your last example, which was decided in court almost instantly FOR free speech, what you are talking about is not free speech. Free speech is speech without the government arresting or punishing you. Nothing about free speech implies speech without consequences, so another lie from you.

Again while some democrats are against unrestricted gun rights, most are not like all of America, except the coasts.

The rest of your drudgery is stupid. Both parties seek to have total control through government branches, currently the GOP have total control.


I did not call you a fascist for having an opposing opinion. 90% of my friends are Republican and voted Trump and i respect them. I called you a fascist because you made fascist statements. Now I'm going to call you a lying fascist because you are vilifying an entire group that doesn't belief the same thing and doing it by saying false things, which is lying

Please cite literal examples to prove your points, lying fascist.

 

10/10 liberalism

Actually the only type of socialism is democratic socialism trots get shot.

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Socialism has nothing to do with tax rate go read a book

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Examples of democrats banning free speech please.

Getting banned on Twitter isn't "tough" you snowflake

 

"Democratic socialism gives more importance to a democratic character. While having almost the same principles as that of socialism, democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections."

Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism | Difference Between

So basically instead of it just being there, we vote for. So again, Socialism. Bernie Sanders, a Socialist, ran for President on some issues pertaining to....raising taxes, free education, free healthcare, putting into welfare programs, free, free , free.

Yet, Democrats want....
- Amnesty for all
- No wall
- DACA
- Keep Anchor Baby Scam (ban the word)
- Abolish ICE
- Fund and create more Sanctuary Cities
(Basically stop everything protecting our border and create ways to make it easier for illegals to get here, stay here and use out welfare systems, engage in crime while they're here, bring their entire family, etc etc etc but Democrats dont want open borders.... right? yeah, okay.)

The ONLY consequence you can get from free speech is if it is directly going to harm someone or put someone in danger. Other than that, free speech is free speech. Having conservative views is not defined as harming someone, so it is protected under the first amendment... unless, again, you're a conservative, then no speech is allowed.

MANY Democrats are advocating for maybe not banning all guns, but making it a lot harder to get them, they want you to have to tell the government that you have one and what type of gun you have, banning them basically everywhere but your house, a Democrat candidate for my state, Florida, ran on "I hate Trump and lets ban guns, vote for me"... (not literally in those words but basically what he said), many Dems in congress want gun control (banning many types of guns, only allowing certain people to get the ones they havent banned, basically water guns)...

Call me stupid all you want, its my opinion. I will say, I agree, both parties are seeking total control. I am not really a Democrat or a Republican, I am a registered Republican but in this day in age its hard to be affiliated with either party, thats why im in the great party of Trump.

"I have friends who are Republicans".... I once said "I have black friends" and you called me something stupid name for using that but now you're using it, okay.

Anyway, I haven't said anything false, and I don't see you trying to change my opinion and debate civilly. I am not vilifying an entire group of people, i'm just saying what they believe, which has been on the news, in their campaigns, on their twitter and social media accounts, at their rallies, on my school campus and many others.

It has everything to do with a tax rate, thats not the only thing but raising taxes is a huge part of socialism.... Socialism is basically free everything and more... Socialist countries tax you so high it takes away 60% of your money.

UC Berkeley.

Not what i'm saying. Any Liberal can go basically anywhere without a body guard. Have a conservative walk on a college campus, they're banned and attacked. Conservatives as we just seen recently can't even go to concerts without the singer jumping off the stage and attacking you. You have Antifa going around and destroying everything when a conservative speaks, to the point the conservative just has to stop speaking. Twitter, facebook, google, bans you from posting, viewing and engaging in conservative speech.

 

@Blue_Marlin "difference between.net" isn't a good political dictionary.

No it isn't your wrong go read a book

To further this line if thinking, at what percent tax rate does a country become socialist?

Where did democrats ban freedom of speech at UC Berkeley?

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Please provide data to support this

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xkcd: Free Speech
Relevant link

 

@MeepLord27 im on my phone and for some reason it’s not allowing me to quote you so just bare with me.

Anyway,

“No you’re wrong” is a very good argument instead of maybe correcting me on what I’m wrong about. What book would you like me to read?

Also, I used that link (and many others say the same thing) because “Democratic Socialism” is a fairly new term that was just made up by Democrats to prove that they don’t want true socialism while they’re trying to convert America into a socialist country. They think we’re stupid.


UC Berkeley canceled Ann coulter, Ben Shapiro & Milo Yinnapolis’ speeches because they didn’t want “hate speech” on their campus. Even though their campus receives tax payer monies. That is banning free speech.

Please provide data to prove the liberals can go anywhere without a body guard & consevtives (specifically Trump conservatives) can’t??? Are you serious? Do I need to start listing everytime a conservative Trump supporter has been beat up for no reason? Compared to a liberal?

Answer:
Consvertive: Like 73528625 Times (exaggeration)
Liberal: 0

 

SparkNotes: Karl Marx (1818–1883): Capital (Das Kapital)

In our contemporary political discourse "democratic socialist" is identical to "social democrats", an ideology that isn't new or controversial.

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If the shoe fits

Sorry buddy I asked for data, not anecdote. "Listing every time my favorite racist isn't allowed on Twitter" isn't data. Sounds like someone needs to retake some highschool classes.

 

@MeepLord27 - Democratic Socialism is Socialism. I don’t care what liberals or anyone says, you can jump around it, stir up the definition, it’s socialism.
Free healthcare = Socialism
Free school (college specifically)= socialism
More welfare = socialism
Higher taxes = leads to socialism
It’s socialism. Bernie Sanders is a socialist.

Here’s a good one for you.... read

Resistance is futile: how the Trump hating left lost its collective minds by Ann Coulter

And or

Liars Leakers and Liberals by Judge Jeanine Pirro

Both of these books explain what I am saying.

 

I've read plenty of conservatard hacks, including Ann Coulter. None of them have anything original or unique to say. If you are really interested I recommend reading Ann Coulter from the 90's when she was arguing for bill Clinton to be impeached and see if any of her arguments apply to trump now (spoiler: they do).

High Crimes and Misdemeanors (I think this is a full text PDF)

Why ask me what I recommend to educate you on socialism when you have no intention of reading it?

 

@MeepLord27 I read a lot of Ann’s work, she’s my favorite person in the political world. Her columns are spot on & I think her new book ‘Resistance Is Futile’ is pretty relevant. Of course ‘High Crimes and misdemeanors’ was probably the most well known because the case against Bill Clinton was pretty huge.

Also, I never said I wouldn’t read it. Karl Marx is someone I wish they would teach more about in grade school. However, you have to understand how frustrating it is to see people on the opposing side call socialism a different name and sell it as something new and different. It’s socialism. Plain and simple.

 

She actually tweeted that the Dutch were in South Africa first.


www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/aug/27/ann-coulter/coulters-strange-claim-dutch-settlers-preceded-bla/

You have to be a special kind of dumb to think that.

 

except it isn't socialism. You haven't answered my original question either: at what tax rate does a government become socialist?

 

@Deinen number one way of getting people to see your view if they disagree with them is to call them racist, fascist, sexist, homophobic or trans-phobic. Please proceed using these antics.

 

read the 120+ pages of good faith discussion with the mentally impotent