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SUPER TUESDAY

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by iMelXP, Mar 1, 2016.

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EL PRESIDENTE

Poll closed Mar 8, 2016.
  1. Donald Drumpf

    22.0%
  2. Klitcher

    10.2%
  3. Marco Rubio

    10.2%
  4. Hillary Clinton

    6.8%
  5. Bernie Sanders

    32.2%
  6. Klitcher

    18.6%
  1. kwagscraft

    kwagscraft Celebrity Meeper

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    Trump isn't strong, he's bratty.
     
  2. iMelXP

    iMelXP bean team

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    the issue with hillary is she is establishment politics who doesn't believe progress is possible, and would at best continue with the current status flow. Keeping with the flow sounds great (i guess) at first, except two candidates (was three) are bringing attention to the people that establishment politics is corrupt and doesn't work for the people, but rather companies. The three candidates are Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, and Carly Fiorina. Carly dropped out, but she spoke out against this as well. Donald Drumpf's approach is "I'm so rich so businesses don't have to speak via money for me to do their bidding" while Bernie Sanders' approach is "I'm funded by the people, and I work for the people's interests, not the 1%".

    Back to Hillary, she's nothing new. Her viewpoints are literally all recent based on public opinion, which sounds great in theory I guess but it just means she'll say whatever the public wants to hear. Bernie Sanders' views and beliefs are solid, and have been consistent with his voting record and even way back in MLK jr's time. He has been a politician all of his life don't be mistaken, but he is a rare example of an honest one. As you may of heard, nearly his entire campaign has been funded by small individual donations averaging at $27. That's incredible and unheard of. You can see both Hillary and Bernie's funding as it is public information, and you'll see most of Hillary's donors are people she is saying she'll be cracking down on. Likely story, people don't fund people who are going to work against them.

    Also, Hillary pretty much screams White Feminist™ and has made atleast half of her campaign about the fact that she's a woman. The White Feminist™ movement has joined beside her, which is filled with variably educated young persons and white women old enough to have walked with Susan B. Anthony herself. If you remove the fact that she's a female from her campaign, she's lost half or more of her fans. Voting for someone because theyre a woman is just as bad as not voting for someone because theyre a woman, it's an irrelevant fact in the face of politics and using it as your fricking slogan is just dirty. Just test this though, if you don't believe me. Every Hillary voter I've ever met has chosen her because "She wants equal gender pay and it's her time" That's the weakest argument ever and shows complete disregard that there's another candidate who is not only more likely to defeat any of the republican opponents, but also has more solid plans and a more consistent track record. By the way, Bernie wants the same exact thing, but he isn't currently in any legal mess.

    I'd like to make clear that yes, Hillary is better than Trump, but it's a very short list of who isn't better than Drumpf. He's awful. I can't even begin to explain it, so here's John Oliver's roast of Drumpf. (Warning: mature language) or even a Family Friendly Romney Roast
     
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  3. WeAreNumberUno

    WeAreNumberUno Celebrity Meeper

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    ☝️oh ok thank you! ☝️
     
  4. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Went to Sanders rally, was awesome.


    I wouldn't assume that yet.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 4, 2016, Original Post Date: Mar 4, 2016 ---
    Incorrect. Regardless of age, if your an America it is your civic duty to learn our political system, and exercise your right with voting. Those people under 18 will soon to be shaping our country.

    If you don't vote if able, then simply put, your opinions on the country are worthless.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 4, 2016 ---
    8 years ago, I voted for Ron Paul, a libertarian republican. This time I'm voting for Bernie Sanders on Tuesday.

    Why? He is the only candidate that stands by his convictions with integrity, has always told it as he's seen it, right or wrong.

    I vote for integrity, the rest isn't that valuable.

    Sanders is the only candidate of both major parties, that has integrity.

    Hillary just lies, how can you be against big money, banks, etc when you are literally taking MILLIONS of dollars from them? That's asinine.

    The Republicans are simply monkeys throwing turd.

    You have Trump, which, I'd vote for over Clinton solely to cause more damage to the GOP, about his only worth to me.

    Cruz: That guy is literally the devil. In fact, just because he believes Satan is evil, makes me motivated to consider Satan not that bad of a guy.

    Rubio: Same as always, warmonger, cronyist Republican.

    Kasich: While I disagree with most of his ideology, he's honestly not that much of a complete Trump.
     
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  5. Chaase5

    Chaase5 Popular Meeper

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    he says that taxing the upper middle class and above 92% isn't out of the picture. He is an idiot.
     
  6. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Source?

    Edit: I don't actually need a source. He never said that - He was asked how high of a tax would he try to enact, it was above 50%. He said he didn't know, but it was above 90% during Eisenhower.

    Because I believe it's by institution a variety of taxes within the financial system. Such as a .5% tax on trades, and other minor tax increases.

    Edit: "This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country."
     
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  7. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

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    Thank. You.
     
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  8. Skaros123

    Skaros123 Otaku Wooden Hoe

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    Before I respond, I want to know where you got this number from.


    He could definitely be impeached. Democrats hate him and several Republican congressmen hate him. Wouldn't be hard. However, I don't see why we should have a "wait and see" with electing a new president. You should always elect presidents you think will be good. It's not like being a Helper on MeepCraft. There is no "wait and see" whether or not you'll be good. You have to be certain you're hiring a good president.

    I admire the fact that Trump just doesn't care what people think about him. I just don't think it's the temperament we want for a president.
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  9. BooBear1227

    BooBear1227 Sunflower | Always

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    I'm not incorrect?... I was saying I don't get why people are so passionate at a younger age. I know it's a civic duty and most high schools make you take a government class. One also normally learns about politics all throughout their primary and secondary education. I know they will soon be shaping our country because I was in those shoes not too long ago. I've seen so many minors very very passionate about it to the point it gets messy and evil. I don't think it needs to get to the point where it is messy and evil. I think there can be civil discussion while not using vulgarity.

    I didn't say I wasn't going to vote. I'm still gonna vote, Deinen. I voted on state policies just this past November. My opinions aren't worthless just because I "don't vote for a president." I'm just not putting my opinions into full effect. I vote on policies/laws, House and Senate elections, and local issues when I gt the chance. What I was saying is that I've had a stronger opinion on presidential elections up until now. E

    ven in the case where someone does vote and another doesn't, I don't think any one person's opinions matters more than another's.
     
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  10. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    It was late, I apologize from my nonsense. Let me rephrase:

    We shouldn't question why people of all ages are this enthusiastic, we should simply encourage it. This messy and evil is not limited to people of young ages, it's limited to the American citizenry. Everytime an election comes around, it quickly turns into an "Us vs them" mentality. For example in this election, Hillary's supporters are voting for her because they are ignorant, or just want a women. Trump supporters are voting for him because they are stupid. -- Neither is entirely true or false.

    But it is extremely important for those that can, vote in all elections. I wish most would take your attitude and voting during all elections, local, state, and nationally. However, most only vote once in every 4 years. My reference to incorrect should have been explained to only apply to the statement:

    It matters because this also affects someone that is 12, just as much as me. In fact, I would argue even more so.
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    Impeachment isn't a removal of office, though.
     
  11. Skaros123

    Skaros123 Otaku Wooden Hoe

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    I know. I think after he gets impeached he could easily be found guilty of some crime.

    I'm really not counting on him being president to begin with, so I don't know how any of this would play out.
     

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