Best Posts in Thread: The Burkini Ban

This is a frightening step against civil liberties from our friends across the pond. The notion that clothing is banned in America is nearly unthinkable, regardless of connotations.

This individual example is not frightening, but the slope it makes certainly is. Come on, the French has been almost the most zealous in the pursuit of freedom. If their citizenry do not support freedom, then it deserves the tyranny.

 

Muslims arn't a race.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 1, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 1, 2016 ---

For better or worse, it's a "line in the sand" to prevent the Islamization of European countries. European far-right governments are the only ones talking about Islamic terror honestly (that is to say, Islam is part of the problem), which leads to typically far-right 'solutions'.

I don't think this is about preventing terrorism on beaches. It's moreso "This is our culture, assimilate or GTFO. We're fed-up of giving ground to Islam, so 'deal with it'.".

 

Does Western culture not include the freedom to express oneself however you wish as long as it harms nobody?

 

I would understand the post above mine if not for the fact that a) it generalizes all Muslim people into being law-breaking criminals and b) it weren't advocating for a law that completely suppresses people's ability to dress as they please simply because of their religion, all the whilst spreading unneeded hatred. This type of law I would hope to be see broken. It's to the same caliber as if your government passed a law against having fun. Am I going to break it? Of course. Why? Because it's absolutely ridiculous. Perhaps if this law had some merit I would agree, but to me this is laughable.

 

It's a really dumb ban when you think about it. You have the extremist ideology of jihadists who were brought up in an "us vs them" mindset in the Middle East, and, wouldn't you think that a ban on something that allows Muslim women to practice their faith in public would only add fuel to the jihadist fire.

And, as deinen said perfectly, isn't this an intrusion on French social liberties? There's truly nothing about the burkhini that should warrant a ban such as indecent exposure or dangerous materials. If anything it's simply an extremely modest item of clothing designed for bathing.
To take it a step further also, the French high court ruled that the ban was indeed unconstitutional and told the mayors of the 50 some cities to lift the ban, however many of those mayors refused. What does that say about the strength of both the French courts' influence as well as the French government's ability to enforce judicial rulings? Additionally, if the French cannot control and repeal laws made my mayors in their jurisdiction, doesn't this indicate a political weakness and instability that members of ISIL and other jihadist groups would be dying to exploit?

 

If they can't respect our laws then we don't have to respect theirs